INDEPENDENT
VIEW: For Roger Smith, this film is the crowning achievement
of a campaign that began several years ago, when he saw his first
Spike Lee movie.
ROBERT
GUENVEUR SMITH: I sat through She's Gotta Have It, and I sat
through it twice which I rarely do. And I said, who is this Spike
Lee, where he is, what is he doing next. I found out that he was
doing film about college campus. I had the audition in a cattle
call with Spike Lee. He felt that I was mad enough to play a rather
demented fraternity fledge in schooldays, and the rest is history.
This is our seventh collaboration.
When
I heard about what he was doing next, a weekend in the life of
one black in Brooklyn, I thought that there must be some sort
of contribution that I might be able to make to that. But he didn't
write me a role. But he said that, maybe there's something that
you can come up with.
I
came up with the idea of Smiley, this guy who walks up and down
the block trying to sell personally colorized photographs of Malcolm
X shaking hands with Martin Luther King.
The
popular, of course, propaganda about these two men is that they
were somehow arch enemies, diametrically opposed, but you can
see in the flash of that bulb that they genuinely respected and
loved each other. And I'm very happy that Spike and I were able
to put that image out there for the world to make it a standard
piece of American iconography.
INDEPENDENT
VIEW: You've collaborated with Spike on so many films. Tell
me about your collaboration on The Huey P. Newton Story.
ROBERT
GUENVEUR SMITH: Spike has long supported my independent work
in the theater. Huey, of course, is simply the latest and ongoing
series of independent work for the stage which includes solo work,
solo biographical work on Christopher Columbus, Frederick Douglas,
two-man cabaret piece called "Inside the Creole Mafia," and many
multimedia pieces in Los Angeles. Spike has always been supportive
of my work. He's been the first person there in the front row.
And he came to see Huey at the Public Theater here in New York
City. And we immediately started talking about how can we somehow
document this. How can we make this live forever on celluloid.
Huey
is a man of profound, extreme, and largely self-acknowledged contradictions.
He trained as a concert pianist as a child. He also trained as
a boxer. He claims that he was graduated from high school functionally
illiterate. He also claims that he taught himself how to read
by going through Plato's Republic six times.
And
then the authorities said, Newton, that guy is very dangerous.
You did a good job with him. You should work with him, boy. But
I'm going to keep on fighting however that may come. If you know
what to do. But for the time being, I would like for you to maintain
discipline within the ranks. I'd like a straight story, minus
the rhetoric. I would like to know how many Black Panther papers
we have been selling on the outside.
Somewhere
along the way he lost his own self-discipline and was murdered
tragically in front of a crackhouse on the same streets where
he and Bobby Seale had co-founded the party.
INDEPENDENT
VIEW: You present Huey at the end of his career. He is ravaged
by drugs, as well as his own personal demons.
ROBERT
GUENVEUR SMITH: I don't come to lionize Huey, neither do I
come to demonize him. I come to try to find the common human element
within the man. He says, I'm really what they call a regular human
being. And I try to constantly illuminate that humanity to re-humanize
the poster.
INDEPENDENT
VIEW: You collaborated with Mark Anthony Thompson, who's also
known as the recording artist, Chocolate Genius. In the play he's
the sound designer. Tell me about your collaboration and how music
works as both memory as well as a narrative cue in the play.
ROBERT
GUENVEUR SMITH: Christopher Columbus was a solo performance
with live sound design by Mark Anthony Thompson. While we were
doing Columbus in 1992 we started talking about, what's next.
Who's next. What are we going to next. And Huey just continued
to push up.
INDEPENDENT
VIEW: You didn't write a script?
ROBERT
GUENVEUR SMITH: No, he asked me, well, tell me about your
father. Tell me about the 10-point party platform. Tell me about
Shakespeare. Tell me about the blues. And I answered all those
questions as Huey, and two hours later we had what we call a play.
INDEPENDENT
VIEW: You have an uncanny resemblance to Huey. How did you
get the Louisiana accent down?
ROBERT
GUENVEUR SMITH: I listened to a lot of tapes, a lot of audiotapes,
watched some videotapes. It's a very distinctive way of speaking,
and I think it's alarming to people because I don't think that
many people know that Huey did speak with a very high-pitched
Louisiana drawl. He was born in Monroe, Louisiana. In fact, when
Huey came out of prison in 1970, and he went on a collegiate speaking
tour, he said it was the worst experience of his life. A lot of
people walked out on him. A lot of people booed him because he
was not the political poster come to life.
INDEPENDENT
VIEW: What the play succeeds in doing is showing the humorous
aspect of Huey's character.
ROBERT
GUENVEUR SMITH: You know, Huey had a wicked sense of humor.
And to bring that out was really not that difficult.
INDEPENDENT
VIEW: Every time you perform this play, you perform it differently.
Like you said before, it's a staged jazzed improvisation. How
is the film version, then, which is a very structured media piece,
going to be different from the stage?
ROBERT
GUENVEUR SMITH: That's what I want to know, too. And if you
find out, please let me know, because this is a really crucial
kind of dilemma. No show is the same ever. It's a song cycle,
as described by Mark Anthony, in which we sing the same songs
every night but we sing them differently every night. So how then
do we now commit to a moment. Well, as my brother Spike Lee says,
it's no longer a play. It's a film now. And I am now at the mercy
of my director and our wonderful editor, Barry Alexander Brown,
and director of photography, Ellen Curis. And I entrust to them
the spirit of Huey.
People
always ask me after the show, how were we? How was this audience?
When we did the show in London, a man came up to me after the
show and said, well, you must excuse us. We're British. Brussels,
which was the first time that we did it for an audience which
was not primarily English speaking, I asked the audience how would
you translate that, you know, my poetry. Huey's poetry. An argument
broke out in the audience between arguing about the French translation
of Huey's poetry. That was one way that an audience reacted. I
intended the piece very simply. I imagined it as a portrait of
a man in a box. And that is something that we all can relate to,
I think.
First
night when I stepped out on stage in San Francisco, an unforgettable
experience. Huey's widow Frederica is there, fifth row center.
His brother and sister are in the house. Many comrades. Probably
many enemies as well. It's good to know that a Huey P. Newton
story can work for those who knew Huey, for those who didn't know
Huey, for those who want to know Huey, or for those who couldn't
care less.
INDEPENDENT
VIEW: What do you want audiences to leave with when he leave
the theater?
ROBERT
GUENVEUR SMITH: I think the stronger sense of themselves.
I think that we come to the theater to see ourselves reflected
on stage. And perhaps when we leave the theater, our masks have
been shifted, readjusted, traded, demolished. Or reconstructed.